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		<title>Apple Mail.app replacement &#8211; Postbox 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scot Mcphee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My regular readers (all two of you) will know that I frequently thrash about looking for an Apple Mail.app replacement. I am a regular and long-term Gmail user. Its search is amazing, the filters powerful (although lacking a filter-power-user feature to help manage the dozens of filters I have actively running) and I quite like [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My regular readers (all two of you) will know that I frequently thrash about <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/?s=Mail.app">looking</a> for an Apple Mail.app replacement. I am a regular and long-term Gmail user. Its search is amazing, the filters powerful (although lacking a filter-power-user feature to help manage the dozens of filters I have actively running) and I quite like the approach with message labels rather than &#8220;folders&#8221;. In the past I used for quite some time the program <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/2009/08/15/mail-app-alternatives-mailplane-ftw/">Mailplane</a> which is essentially a thin wrapper about the Gmail interface (which my work uses as well me personally). I used to love the Gmail interface, but <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/2011/11/02/gmail-redesigned-app-coming-to-the-iphone/">recently</a> I&#8217;ve found it starting to feel cluttered with functions and not suitable for long time use. Also, on <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/2011/10/16/on-upgrading-to-mac-osx-10-7-lion/">upgrading to OSX 10.7 Lion</a> I wanted to take advantage of iCloud calendar and contacts functionality to get &#8220;live sync&#8221; of this data to my iPhone and iPad. I switched back to Apple&#8217;s <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/2011/11/16/mac-mail-app-and-its-local-cache-of-messages/">Mail.app</a>.</p>
<p>I was, and remain, an email power user (I know that this actually shows my age nowadays). In fact, for many years, I used to use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_(email_client)">elm</a>, and then <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_(email_client)">mutt</a> in the Unix shell &mdash; it was only really once I got the invite to the Gmail beta that made me finally switch from mutt! I was never a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_(email_client)">pine</a> user although I know a lot of people used to use that, and I never really super-loved any of the Mozilla clients like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird">Thunderbird</a> &mdash; its calendar integration is shit. Obviously Outlook, Entourage, and other Microsoft email software is purely for defectively-thinking droolers who hate the internet, send pictures to their friends pasted into Word or Powerpoint attachments, and have an Exchange server stuck up their bum so that doesn&#8217;t even enter into the equation. So, I love the keyboard with my mail program, I love seeing a threaded view of email conversations. I mostly love plain text email too (although this is not such a hard-core requirement for me nowadays). And I need it to work with Apple&#8217;s iCal and Address Book because I like those programs and I want to get this information onto my iOS devices over the wireless.</p>
<p>However, while Mail.app is probably a reasonable proposition for the average consumer-grade user and does many of these things pretty well, I never really <em>loved</em> it. I suffered with it these past few months. Its search (i.e. spotlight) is OK for email but no patch on Gmail. It doesn&#8217;t really play nice with Gmail&#8217;s labels and takes a &#8220;folder&#8221; approach. It has a thread view now but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s spectacular. It sometimes seems to forget that I&#8217;ve got a message selected and it should make it as &#8220;read&#8221;. However, I could live with it, I thought.</p>
<p>But, last night, I found <a href="http://www.postbox-inc.com/">Postbox 3</a> via a <a href="https://www.mupromo.com/">MacUpdate bundle</a>. I decided to give it a burl. It&#8217;s actually quite awesome, despite the lead engineer being an ex-Mozilla guy (bearing in my mind my comments about Thunderbird above)! It plays nice with my Mac, and iCal and Address Book. Its integration with Gmail&#8217;s labels is also pretty smooth and I haven&#8217;t found and issues with it. It even supports Gmail&#8217;s keyboard shortcuts which is heaven for me. You can even configure it to connect to Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter in such a way that if you don&#8217;t have a picture in your address book for an email contact, but have a connection to them in any of those services, it will use the picture from the service. That&#8217;s a very nice feature. It has a way to get at all the various configuration parameters and fiddle with them (haven&#8217;t really explored that too much other than to look at it).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not without rough edges though. For example, choosing an alert sound for new email; you can choose either to use the &#8220;System Alert&#8221; sound, or pick and choose any relevant sound file on your hard disk. What you can&#8217;t do is select from a drop down list of the available Mac System Sounds. You have to locate the relevant AIFF file in the System Library. And if you do choose &#8220;System Alert&#8221; you get get a horrible !plink! sound and not the actual System Alert sound from the Sound system prefs. And the &#8216;whoosh&#8217; sound it uses for sent mail is not configurable other than on or off. It needs to know how to open a message in a new window, not just a new tab. You also cannot select a message&#8217;s colour (background or foreground), either manually or through filters (in Mail.app, I used this to highlight in a background colour the messages from people in my Address Book where I was an explicit recipient). It also needs a Unix &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff">biff</a>&#8221; style plugin for the menu-bar. It does integrate well with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growl_(software)">Growl</a> but I don&#8217;t really like that for email notification. But that&#8217;s all pretty minor stuff. The major stuff, like Gmail integration, it does really well.</p>
<p>But, a really nice feature and a pleasant surprise is that when you reply to a long-running thread, it has a really nice way to summarise the emails from the various participants (see crappy screenshot below).</p>
<p>Overall I rate this program 8/10. Definitely sticking with it. Recommended.</p>
<p><img src="http://inlustre.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PostBox3-screenshot.png" alt="Postbox 3 thread reply format" title="PostBox3-screenshot.png" border="0" width="558" height="600" /></p>
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		<title>Mail.app alternatives &#8211; Mailplane FTW!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scot Mcphee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on the post from the other day about Mozilla Thunderbird as an alternative to Apple&#8217;s Mail.app, I got a recommendation on the straight-talking java mailing from Joey Gibson to check out the commercial application Mailplane. After a day playing with it, I&#8217;ve now bought a license. Now Mailplane isn&#8217;t your average mail program &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the post from the other day about <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/2009/08/13/mozilla-thunderbird-as-alternative-to-mac-mail-app-road-test/">Mozilla Thunderbird as an alternative to Apple&#8217;s Mail.app</a>, I got a recommendation on the <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/straight_talking_java/">straight-talking java</a> mailing from <a href="http://joeygibson.com/">Joey Gibson</a> to check out the commercial application <a href="http://mailplaneapp.com/">Mailplane</a>. After a day playing with it, I&#8217;ve now bought a license. Now Mailplane isn&#8217;t your average mail program &#8211; what it is a webkit-based wrapper around <a href="http://mail.google.com/">Gmail</a> with some added extras, like integration with the Apple Address Book. Unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t have integration with the Apple iCal program. I have also been using <a href="http://www.spanningsync.com/">Spanning Sync</a> for a while now to keep my Apple and Google calendars and address books in sync, so I don&#8217;t really mind the Gmail centricity of Mailplane. You need to have a Gmail account and it will only with with Gmail. It uses the Gmail interface so it doesn&#8217;t store your emails locally (unless you get the beta version and use the Google-Gears-driven &#8220;offline&#8221; mode).</p>
<p>As for non-Google email, my work uses Exchange &#8211; and I can&#8217;t reach an secure port for that without firing up the work VPN, so usually I use the shockingly clunky webmail alternative anyway &#8211; so its not like I am losing out on any functionality. I have a .mac address which truth be told doesn&#8217;t get used that much &#8211; and Gmail can suck in pop-based email into it&#8217;s own accounts anyway. It can be used with an unlimited number of Gmail accounts.</p>
<p>If you are a Gmail user on a Mac, I&#8217;d definitely recommend having a look at Mailplane.  It&#8217;s a nice way to get the Gmail-native way of handling email (which generally I love)  onto the Mac. I think its needs some improvement, such as integration into Apple&#8217;s iCal, and perhaps, if possible, the abstraction of some of the Gmail interface elements (such as gmail&#8217;s list of labels) out into native interface widgets.</p>
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		<title>Mozilla Thunderbird as alternative to Mac Mail.app</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scot Mcphee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning my Mac&#8217;s Mail.app actually ate two emails I wrote and didn&#8217;t send them or save them in my &#8216;Drafts&#8217; folder. Data loss is unacceptable, so I searched for an alternative. It seems the best alternative on offer is Thunderbird, which I used to use in my Windows and Linux days. Thunderbird 2 doesn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning my Mac&#8217;s Mail.app actually ate two emails I wrote and didn&#8217;t send them or save them in my &#8216;Drafts&#8217; folder. Data loss is unacceptable, so I searched for an alternative. It seems the best alternative on offer is Thunderbird, which I used to use in my Windows and Linux days.</p>
<p>Thunderbird 2 doesn&#8217;t integrate with the Macintosh Address Book, so that rules it out straight away, had to go straight to Thunderbird 3 beta. I got the latest, beta 3, released in July.</p>
<p>After about 5 minutes with Thunderbird 3 beta I was telling it to <em>go fsck itself</em>. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
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<li>Installing Thunderbird 3 &#8211; what&#8217;s with the &#8220;@googlemail.com&#8217; for Gmail? I use &#8216;@gmail.com&#8217; and always have and always will. That&#8217;s the option I want. Oh sweet lord, it will force me to use @googlemail.com &#8211; that&#8217;s a <em>disaster</em> right there. Can be edited later, however, I discover. But still.</li>
<li>Thunderbird 3  &#8220;integrates&#8221; with the Mac address book, which is to say it will pull addresses from it, but it does this through it&#8217;s own horrible, horrible, interface. Bad Mozilla! I want to use &#8211; at all times &#8211; the Apple &#8216;Calendar.app&#8217; and &#8216;Address Book.app&#8217;, OK? Their user interfaces. Not yours.</li>
<li>I got some mail with pictures in it. I can view the pictures by selecting &#8220;view external content&#8221; button for this one email. If I select the &#8220;always view external content for xxxx&#8221; it wants to add the sender to the address book (it&#8217;s internal address book). <em>No Mozilla</em>, that&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m asking for. I just want the graphics for that newsletter I get sent to be shown without me pressing extra buttons every time I get this newsletter. I don&#8217;t <em>want</em> their address in my address book!</li>
<li><em>Arrrrgh! My eyes!</em> Jesus it&#8217;s ugly. And clunky. It feels like Windows all over again. Good lord. I can&#8217;t find any way to change the list display fonts. It&#8217;s probably in there somewhere, I will admit, but I can&#8217;t find it.</li>
<li>Every single folder, I have to individually select &#8220;view by thread&#8221;, as far as I can tell.</li>
<li>Search is an entirely separate window/dialogue. I can&#8217;t search more than one account at once. &#8220;Search Subfolders&#8221; at the top level includes Spam folder. There doesn&#8217;t seem to be a way to add a criteria that &#8220;Message is not spam&#8221;.</li>
<li>The terrible search function is the only basis for &#8220;Smart Folders&#8221; that I can find so far, therefore it won&#8217;t work for what I need. In Mail.app, I use three smart folders:
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<li> All unread mail in <em>any</em> account or sub-folder thereof</li>
<li>All mail in the <em>Inbox</em> of any of my three &#8220;personal&#8221; accounts, that is, mail directly addressed to me personally.</li>
<li>All mail in the <em>Inbox</em> of my work mail account.</li>
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<li>On the plus side, it does have good support for keyboard commands. I&#8217;m an old <em>mutt</em> user (before that, <em>elm</em>) so I love keyboard commands in my mail program. Mail.app has rubbish support for this.</li>
<li>Also on the plus side, Thunderbird&#8217;s threading display is a little clearer. Mail.app just puts all messages in a thread under the one hierarchy, you don&#8217;t get any sense of what message is a reply to which.</li>
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<p>OK  Apple Mail.app lost some sent mail  <em>once</em> in the middle of a godawful crash (but a crash nonetheless), and I&#8217;ve always hated its horrible keyboard support. However maybe I am willing to take those risks and annoyances  if <em>this</em> is the alternative experience. I know that Mozilla is open source, and full of all that open sorcery goodness, but I live and die via my email program, right after my IDE, and I want a pretty nice experience with it. Thus, I&#8217;m now in a bind &#8211; use a program that just proved to me its data integrity is not 100%, or use a program that that just gives me a truly horrible user experience and wants to screw with my choice of Calendar and Address Book?</p>
<p>Mac email program suggestions in the comments if you like (and no, don&#8217;t suggest <em>Entourage</em>, it&#8217;s completely off the menu).</p>
<p><em>UPDATE</em>: I should mention that, for me, the deal killers are points 2, 6, and 7.</p>
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