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		<title>Mail.app alternatives &#8211; Mailplane FTW!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scot Mcphee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on the post from the other day about Mozilla Thunderbird as an alternative to Apple&#8217;s Mail.app, I got a recommendation on the straight-talking java mailing from Joey Gibson to check out the commercial application Mailplane. After a day playing with it, I&#8217;ve now bought a license. Now Mailplane isn&#8217;t your average mail program &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the post from the other day about <a href="http://www.crazymcphee.net/x/2009/08/13/mozilla-thunderbird-as-alternative-to-mac-mail-app-road-test/">Mozilla Thunderbird as an alternative to Apple&#8217;s Mail.app</a>, I got a recommendation on the <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/straight_talking_java/">straight-talking java</a> mailing from <a href="http://joeygibson.com/">Joey Gibson</a> to check out the commercial application <a href="http://mailplaneapp.com/">Mailplane</a>. After a day playing with it, I&#8217;ve now bought a license. Now Mailplane isn&#8217;t your average mail program &#8211; what it is a webkit-based wrapper around <a href="http://mail.google.com/">Gmail</a> with some added extras, like integration with the Apple Address Book. Unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t have integration with the Apple iCal program. I have also been using <a href="http://www.spanningsync.com/">Spanning Sync</a> for a while now to keep my Apple and Google calendars and address books in sync, so I don&#8217;t really mind the Gmail centricity of Mailplane. You need to have a Gmail account and it will only with with Gmail. It uses the Gmail interface so it doesn&#8217;t store your emails locally (unless you get the beta version and use the Google-Gears-driven &#8220;offline&#8221; mode).</p>
<p>As for non-Google email, my work uses Exchange &#8211; and I can&#8217;t reach an secure port for that without firing up the work VPN, so usually I use the shockingly clunky webmail alternative anyway &#8211; so its not like I am losing out on any functionality. I have a .mac address which truth be told doesn&#8217;t get used that much &#8211; and Gmail can suck in pop-based email into it&#8217;s own accounts anyway. It can be used with an unlimited number of Gmail accounts.</p>
<p>If you are a Gmail user on a Mac, I&#8217;d definitely recommend having a look at Mailplane.  It&#8217;s a nice way to get the Gmail-native way of handling email (which generally I love)  onto the Mac. I think its needs some improvement, such as integration into Apple&#8217;s iCal, and perhaps, if possible, the abstraction of some of the Gmail interface elements (such as gmail&#8217;s list of labels) out into native interface widgets.</p>
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		<title>Mozilla Thunderbird as alternative to Mac Mail.app</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scot Mcphee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning my Mac&#8217;s Mail.app actually ate two emails I wrote and didn&#8217;t send them or save them in my &#8216;Drafts&#8217; folder. Data loss is unacceptable, so I searched for an alternative. It seems the best alternative on offer is Thunderbird, which I used to use in my Windows and Linux days. Thunderbird 2 doesn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning my Mac&#8217;s Mail.app actually ate two emails I wrote and didn&#8217;t send them or save them in my &#8216;Drafts&#8217; folder. Data loss is unacceptable, so I searched for an alternative. It seems the best alternative on offer is Thunderbird, which I used to use in my Windows and Linux days.</p>
<p>Thunderbird 2 doesn&#8217;t integrate with the Macintosh Address Book, so that rules it out straight away, had to go straight to Thunderbird 3 beta. I got the latest, beta 3, released in July.</p>
<p>After about 5 minutes with Thunderbird 3 beta I was telling it to <em>go fsck itself</em>. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
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<li>Installing Thunderbird 3 &#8211; what&#8217;s with the &#8220;@googlemail.com&#8217; for Gmail? I use &#8216;@gmail.com&#8217; and always have and always will. That&#8217;s the option I want. Oh sweet lord, it will force me to use @googlemail.com &#8211; that&#8217;s a <em>disaster</em> right there. Can be edited later, however, I discover. But still.</li>
<li>Thunderbird 3  &#8220;integrates&#8221; with the Mac address book, which is to say it will pull addresses from it, but it does this through it&#8217;s own horrible, horrible, interface. Bad Mozilla! I want to use &#8211; at all times &#8211; the Apple &#8216;Calendar.app&#8217; and &#8216;Address Book.app&#8217;, OK? Their user interfaces. Not yours.</li>
<li>I got some mail with pictures in it. I can view the pictures by selecting &#8220;view external content&#8221; button for this one email. If I select the &#8220;always view external content for xxxx&#8221; it wants to add the sender to the address book (it&#8217;s internal address book). <em>No Mozilla</em>, that&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m asking for. I just want the graphics for that newsletter I get sent to be shown without me pressing extra buttons every time I get this newsletter. I don&#8217;t <em>want</em> their address in my address book!</li>
<li><em>Arrrrgh! My eyes!</em> Jesus it&#8217;s ugly. And clunky. It feels like Windows all over again. Good lord. I can&#8217;t find any way to change the list display fonts. It&#8217;s probably in there somewhere, I will admit, but I can&#8217;t find it.</li>
<li>Every single folder, I have to individually select &#8220;view by thread&#8221;, as far as I can tell.</li>
<li>Search is an entirely separate window/dialogue. I can&#8217;t search more than one account at once. &#8220;Search Subfolders&#8221; at the top level includes Spam folder. There doesn&#8217;t seem to be a way to add a criteria that &#8220;Message is not spam&#8221;.</li>
<li>The terrible search function is the only basis for &#8220;Smart Folders&#8221; that I can find so far, therefore it won&#8217;t work for what I need. In Mail.app, I use three smart folders:
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<li> All unread mail in <em>any</em> account or sub-folder thereof</li>
<li>All mail in the <em>Inbox</em> of any of my three &#8220;personal&#8221; accounts, that is, mail directly addressed to me personally.</li>
<li>All mail in the <em>Inbox</em> of my work mail account.</li>
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<li>On the plus side, it does have good support for keyboard commands. I&#8217;m an old <em>mutt</em> user (before that, <em>elm</em>) so I love keyboard commands in my mail program. Mail.app has rubbish support for this.</li>
<li>Also on the plus side, Thunderbird&#8217;s threading display is a little clearer. Mail.app just puts all messages in a thread under the one hierarchy, you don&#8217;t get any sense of what message is a reply to which.</li>
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<p>OK  Apple Mail.app lost some sent mail  <em>once</em> in the middle of a godawful crash (but a crash nonetheless), and I&#8217;ve always hated its horrible keyboard support. However maybe I am willing to take those risks and annoyances  if <em>this</em> is the alternative experience. I know that Mozilla is open source, and full of all that open sorcery goodness, but I live and die via my email program, right after my IDE, and I want a pretty nice experience with it. Thus, I&#8217;m now in a bind &#8211; use a program that just proved to me its data integrity is not 100%, or use a program that that just gives me a truly horrible user experience and wants to screw with my choice of Calendar and Address Book?</p>
<p>Mac email program suggestions in the comments if you like (and no, don&#8217;t suggest <em>Entourage</em>, it&#8217;s completely off the menu).</p>
<p><em>UPDATE</em>: I should mention that, for me, the deal killers are points 2, 6, and 7.</p>
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