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Mozilla Thunderbird as alternative to Mac

This morning my Mac’s actually ate two emails I wrote and didn’t send them or save them in my ‘Drafts’ folder. Data loss is unacceptable, so I searched for an alternative. It seems the best alternative on offer is Thunderbird, which I used to use in my Windows and Linux days.

Thunderbird 2 doesn’t integrate with the Macintosh Address Book, so that rules it out straight away, had to go straight to Thunderbird 3 beta. I got the latest, beta 3, released in July.

After about 5 minutes with Thunderbird 3 beta I was telling it to go fsck itself. Here’s why:

  1. Installing Thunderbird 3 – what’s with the “’ for Gmail? I use ‘’ and always have and always will. That’s the option I want. Oh sweet lord, it will force me to use – that’s a disaster right there. Can be edited later, however, I discover. But still.
  2. Thunderbird 3  “integrates” with the Mac address book, which is to say it will pull addresses from it, but it does this through it’s own horrible, horrible, interface. Bad Mozilla! I want to use – at all times – the Apple ‘’ and ‘Address’, OK? Their user interfaces. Not yours.
  3. I got some mail with pictures in it. I can view the pictures by selecting “view external content” button for this one email. If I select the “always view external content for xxxx” it wants to add the sender to the address book (it’s internal address book). No Mozilla, that’s not what I’m asking for. I just want the graphics for that newsletter I get sent to be shown without me pressing extra buttons every time I get this newsletter. I don’t want their address in my address book!
  4. Arrrrgh! My eyes! Jesus it’s ugly. And clunky. It feels like Windows all over again. Good lord. I can’t find any way to change the list display fonts. It’s probably in there somewhere, I will admit, but I can’t find it.
  5. Every single folder, I have to individually select “view by thread”, as far as I can tell.
  6. Search is an entirely separate window/dialogue. I can’t search more than one account at once. “Search Subfolders” at the top level includes Spam folder. There doesn’t seem to be a way to add a criteria that “Message is not spam”.
  7. The terrible search function is the only basis for “Smart Folders” that I can find so far, therefore it won’t work for what I need. In, I use three smart folders:
    1. All unread mail in any account or sub-folder thereof
    2. All mail in the Inbox of any of my three “personal” accounts, that is, mail directly addressed to me personally.
    3. All mail in the Inbox of my work mail account.
  8. On the plus side, it does have good support for keyboard commands. I’m an old mutt user (before that, elm) so I love keyboard commands in my mail program. has rubbish support for this.
  9. Also on the plus side, Thunderbird’s threading display is a little clearer. just puts all messages in a thread under the one hierarchy, you don’t get any sense of what message is a reply to which.

OK  Apple lost some sent mail  once in the middle of a godawful crash (but a crash nonetheless), and I’ve always hated its horrible keyboard support. However maybe I am willing to take those risks and annoyances if this is the alternative experience. I know that Mozilla is open source, and full of all that open sorcery goodness, but I live and die via my email program, right after my IDE, and I want a pretty nice experience with it. Thus, I’m now in a bind – use a program that just proved to me its data integrity is not 100%, or use a program that that just gives me a truly horrible user experience and wants to screw with my choice of Calendar and Address Book?

Mac email program suggestions in the comments if you like (and no, don’t suggest Entourage, it’s completely off the menu).

UPDATE: I should mention that, for me, the deal killers are points 2, 6, and 7.

One Comment

  1. Michael wrote:

    How about Eudora 8 for Mac, currently in beta from a team of old Eudora people and now housed at Mozilla?

    I’m upgrading all my Macs now and hate to give up the last stable Eudora (6.2.4), but I must. I can’t decide between…

    Thunderbird 2
    Thunderbird 3 beta
    Eudora 8 beta

    I’m a heavy email user who’s been using Eudora since it was still owned by my alma mater (UIUC). THANKS.

    Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 12:37 | Permalink

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